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Clark mentions something about being confused why Black Canary is with Green Arrow one day to Bruce while on the Watchtower (pre identity reveal?) and Bruce has to fight his way through that conversation without revealing that 1) he knows, from firsthand experience, exactly why Dinah is with Oliver 2) she’s just as bad as he is, if not arguably much worse and 3) she is 98% of that man’s impulse control and they can’t break up without disrupting several of Bruce’s contingencies
#bruce wayne#batman#dc#thoughts#Oliver Queen#dinah lance#Clark: what does she even see in him!?#Bruce: staring off into the distance and seeing war#green arrow#black canary#Clark kent#superman#Justice league#jl
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A Concerned Friend
I forgot I made this one!! You guys almost didn’t get to see it :0 I wonder how many of these I’ve made and forgotten about…
Masterlist // First // Previous // Next
#I accidentally deleted the poll so I’m not sure what format to use.#whoops!#the group chat name is inspired by the fact that they both have pretty much the same name lol#billy batson#dc#fawcett tweets#captain marvel dc#shazam#dcu#fawcett city#dc universe#fake tweets#diana prince#dinah lance#Wonder Woman#black canary#fake texts#fake messages#divine twitch chat
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happy halloween 🐟🦪
#ignore how i completely forgot what an oyster looked like when drawing pearl’s costume#also ignore how messy it is i just cleaned up the sketch a bit#dinah the dining car#pearl the observation car#buffy the buffet car#ashley the smoking car#stex#starlight express#fanart
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Bat Timeline vs Bat Publication Timeline
I kept my receipts and citations here. I felt canon ages are the best tool to track time. Also, I used cover dates.
Neat things I noticed:
Nothing much happened in Gotham until Robin arrived both in continuity and in print history. Sorry but your lone wolf Batman doesn't exist :P
Dick permanently becomes Batman at the same age Bruce was when he became Batman; 25. Kinda poetic if you ask me.
Babs was Oracle longer than she was Batgirl in both continuity and publication history!!
Completely forgot that Dinah was literally her own mother once upon a time. Weird stuff.
There's not enough Jason!Robin stories to fit the 3 years some fans claim he was Robin for. Also the 3 years idea doesn't work if you track Dick's age. My guess is he was originally younger than 15 when he died but DC aged him up so he could be an adult when he returned as Red Hood.
It's pretty clear that Helena's integration into the group began the expansion of this complicated "family unit". She set the precedent for those noirish vigilante work relations.
Tim has to be a vampire if he's meant to be 17 three whole very explicit in-continuity years after he had his 16th birthday.
Stephanie has basically been in this gig as long as Tim! And almost as long as Helena too. Proper seasoned ass-kicker who Damian should look to for pointers.
Also remembered that Cassandra's Batgirl run is the best thing to come out of Gotham in the early 2000s.
I dunno I think the One Year Later timeskip was just unnecessary.
Kate and Renee are almost as new to the vigilante gig as Damian!
Bat-adjacent Rose Wilson was said to be 14 during her first appearance around Year 15 so she's the same age Tim.
Not Bat related but Lian Harper's age works with my timeline so yay! Born early Year 14, she's 5 during Cry for Justice in Year 19.
I have a theory, based off of Batman #416, that Dick graduated high school at 17. He says he was Bruce's partner for 6 years and that after he was fired; he left college after the 1st semester, then moved around the country, had his own adventures, and "eventually" ended up with the Titans. Also, he was 21 during the Titans' 3rd anniversary (New Titans v2 #71) and 19 when he became Nightwing (Tales of the Titans #44) so the Titans (re-)formed when he was 18. This means he probably only turned 18 in the academic year he began college (or has a summer birthday). So he was Bruce's partner from ages 11-17, did his own thing for a while as he did in the 70s, eventually joined the Titans at 18, and became Nightwing at 19. Jason comes into the picture soon after Dick retires the Robin identity.
#“what's the point of a timeline; it's not meant to make sense that way; no one ages” STFU#the point of a timeline is solidifying that characters do age and that time is able to flow! Cuz time's an interesting theme to explore!#this is examining continuity as the literal history of these paper people and enabling them to grow (up) issue by issue#batman#bat family#batfam#dc comics#comics#timeline#bruce wayne#dick grayson#barbara gordon#dinah lance#jason todd#helena bertinelli#tim drake#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#kate kane#renee montoya#damian wayne#robin#batgirl#black canary#huntress#nightwing#the spoiler#oracle#red robin#red hood
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#fake twitter#it's been a while. kinda cringing at myself. but it's fun to do these#dc#dc comics#ollie queen#oliver queen#green arrow#mia dearden#speedy#hal jordan#green lantern#dinah lance#black canary#halollie#dinahalollie#(?) I never know what's the ship name#queenlance post#r: old times. new times. all the time#r: hard traveling heroes
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This entire panel shows so much respect to Cassandra Cain, like my God, this is what we've been asking for DC, literally the bare minimum. 😭
#HER BEING ACKNOWLEDGED AS BRUCE'S DAUGHTER#HER SAYING HOW IMPORTANT BABS IS TO HER#THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!#also Leo Romero's unmasked Cass is gorgeous obviously#cassandra cain#batgirl#dinah lance#black canary#barbara gordon#birds of prey#dc comics
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Black Canary history variant cover by Nicola Scott
#dc comics#black canary#dinah lance#green arrow#either that birds of prey they haven’t announced what this cover will be for yet#variant cover#nicola scott
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The Young Justice learns about a new experiment going on at Cadmus once again involving cloning and decides to go rescue the clones. They expertly break into the facility avoiding all alarms only to find out that they trigger anyway. Instead of a voice coming on over the intercoms announcing intruders though, it instead announces an escape. What?
The team continues navigating the base until they come across two kids. The older boy can't be older than 8 while the girl being tugged along behind him looks around 5. The boy narrows his eyes and his body tenses up.
"You're definitely not guards. Who are you?" He questions.
It's Superboy who steps up and says "We're the Young Justice. We came here to rescue you."
The boy doesn't seem to believe them but the girl immediately gets excited. Apparently she couldn't wait to meet real life superheroes. Especially Superboy. That means whatever Cadmus was doing with the kids, they'd already implanted knowledge of the outside world in them. That didn't bode well.
The team decides to push that to the back of their minds for now and focus on the mission. They manage to convince the boy (with the help of the girl) to come with them and they get the two out of the facility. Of course this is after they take all the information they can from the servers (Thanks Robin).
As they get both kids to the medical wing on the Watchtower, the boy introduces himself as Danny and the little girl as his sister Ellie. Connor's never seen clones with such a close bond before and he can admit he's a little jealous that he and Match don't have that kind of relationship. Still he's just happy they rescued the two.
Now to find out who they're clones of and what Cadmus wanted to use them for.
#dp x dc#dc x dp#winter's tales#danny and ellie decided to reincarnate together#they end up becoming clones#no ellie will never let danny live this down#this is mainly fluff#but the pair will unwittingly trauma dump#a lot#and everyone around them is gonna get real concerned#just what was cadmus doing to these babies!?#a second more destructive mission might be in order#meanwhile the siblings are just excited to meet a ton of heroes#that's the whole reason they picked this world after all#so yeah they're living in paradise while everyone else is constantly stressing out#over the terrible experiences they've had when they're still so young#and they say it like it's perfectly normal!#someone get dinah on the phone
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#i would say that she'll figure it out soon but she's doing those quizes daily so yknow what i don't think she will#dinahbabs#barbara gordon#dc oracle#black canary#dinah lance
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Oracle hacking some stuff idk
#jerry draws#oracle#barbara gordon#birds of prey#bop#dc fanart#i haven't read much of bop yet but I really like Dinah and Babs. they're cool ladies#i will be drawing more birds as i meet them. cause for now bop is just those two in what im reading
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I keep thinking about this AU where Bruce just stays in college and becomes a doctor but still gets dragged into the superhero world.
Ok so Bruce is a doctor and is known for never turning down a patient because he’s still Bruce and he just doesn’t want anyone to die. He still lives in Gotham which is still a horrible place. He still tries to help Gotham by donating and creating his Wayne foundation but it’s hard because the inherent corruption in Gotham hinders anything he does this way.
The mob is still super active in Gotham and a lot of Batman’s rogues still happen because a lot of his rogues just happen with or without Batman. Poison Ivy still becomes an ecoterrorist. Penguin still becomes a powerful mob boss. Mad Hatter is still just the worst. Tommy probably still tries to kill Bruce. Just so many of Gotham’s rogues still exist, except there is no hero to stop them in Gotham. People try, but Gotham is never kind to any hero. Bruce is immensely frustrated by all this but he can’t really do anything. Hell sometimes Lesly’s clinic (cause I feel like he would work there) gets harassed and extorted to help heal mob members and crime wars. He hates this a lot but he’s trapped. He doesn’t have Batman training or gear, the best he can do is help where he can.
However there are still other heroes in this world and Superman is literally just a quick flight away. The JL forms without a Batman and they see Gotham as a powder keg. So they try to help when they can and sometimes they get injured. It comes to a head when a Metropolis (Lex Luthor specifically) and some Gotham rogues team up to get rid of the main hero pain in their necks. Lex creates kryptonite bullets and disperses them to the Gotham rogues to use. Lex sees this as a win because he can get Superman killed without doing much and the Gotham rogues see this as a win cause they have a big weapon against Superman.
So Superman gets shot at with kryptonite bullets. They aren’t the best so they hurt him but only one really makes it through and hits his skin. He has to call in back up and the JL comes to help. I can image Wonder Woman or Flash getting there first. They have no idea what to do because holy shit Superman was shot. That shouldn’t happen! But they’ve heard of this doctor in Gotham that’s supposed to be really good. Maybe Oliver or Dinah suggest Bruce idk. So they take Superman to Dr. Bruce Wayne.
Dr. Bruce Wayne is at his manor with Alfred and a young Dick Grayson (because I firmly believe Bruce would still adopt the kids) and then there is a knock on the door. Alfred goes to answer and in barges the Justice League with a bleeding Superman. Bruce is immediately on his feet barking orders to the JL to get equipment he can use and telling Dick and Alfred to stay back. He doesn’t know what’s going on or how freaking Superman is bleeding out in front of him but he doesn’t care. Bruce realizes quickly that the bullet is cause Clark more pain so it can’t be a leave the bullet in there scenario. He gets the bullet out and asks the JL how to help Clark heal. They say sunlight helps but this is Gotham! It’s polluted and over cast all the time, he won’t be able to get enough sunlight. Bruce remembers a sunlamp they have from a science experiment for Dick. He tells Dick to go get it and they pray that it works. It does by some miracle, though it’s no substitute for actual sunlight.
The League is grateful for Bruce and Clark is also immensely grateful cause holy shit he got shot. The Justice League has to now figure out how these bullets got out in the first place and well Bruce can’t help but be nosy so he mentions that a few of his patients, the mob ones, let it slip that the higher ups got into contact with someone in metropolis and Bruce knows Lex hates Superman. So he helps them out a bit too.
And after that any time they need help with some medical issue they go to super doctor Bruce. He’s also still Bruce and can’t ignore his detective brain so he helps them with mysteries too from time to time. Idk I feel like this still needs more fleshing out but I think it could be funny. Or sad. Or both.
#batman#batfam#bruce wayne#dick grayson#superman#justice league#jla#dc comics#dc#dcu#dc universe#dcau#dc au#clark kent#wonder woman#only mentioned#same with the rest of the JL tbh#I love them and I wanna write an entire scene of Oliver and Dinah being like hey what about Bruce#I just want the justice league panicking and Bruce also panicking but in a completely different way#idk i just think its funny#batman au
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Girl's Knight
It was supposed to be girl’s night. Tim was on Comms so Barbara could be here, and the rest of the Bats had all but forced them to take the night off, each of them promising that they would handle the crime of the city so the girls could relax for one night. The plan had been a movie at the theater, dining out in their fanciest dresses that were usually only used for stuffy galas, then returning to the clocktower for drinks and makeovers. Not to mention looking through Babara’s cache of black mail videos of all the fails of the boys.
Of course, they still lived in Gotham. When did anything go to plan in Gotham?
The theater had been attacked by Dr. Freeze. He basically turned the whole building into a snowglobe. Since no one was inside it, Batman was just going to leave the building to thaw normally. So they should be able to enjoy movies there again sometime in April. The fancy restaurant turned out to be a front for a mob family and while they knew that, Jim Gordon had jumped the gun on cracking down and shut the place down. Babs was going to give her dad an annoyed call tomorrow about that one.
So now the trio of Barbara, Cassandra and Stephanie were at Batburger in their gala finest. The night could still be saved if they could just get back to the clock tower. Then Condiment King strutted into the Batburger. All three of them sighed and Cass and Steph started silently arguing back and forth on who would slip out to deal with him. No matter who stayed and who left, there were even odds of all of them getting covered in something foul smelling.
However all three of them were surprised when a pair at another table were the ones to rise.
Cassandra had of course clocked them when she entered, that part of her brain that she could never shut off had cataloged every person in the restaurant before she was even fully past the door.
The woman was tall, taller than any of her brothers. Even taller than Bruce. She might even be as tall as Wonder Woman. She had long flaming red locks that cascaded down her back, restrained only by a teal headband. She had sat facing the entrance and had clearly clocked the Batgirl trio as fighters as well. She was well muscled and moved with the practiced grace of a trained martial artist. When Condiment King had appeared she had seemed more annoyed than scared or truly bothered by him.
Her companion was skinny and small in the same way that street kids usually were, the same way Jason had been and even Cass herself. Like no matter how much food he ate it would never be enough to make up for not getting enough as a kid. Even though he had his back to the entrance he had still been aware of every person as they came and went, cocking his head and tracking them by sound alone. He looked to be the same age Cass was. Cass could tell they were siblings, though they looked just about as different as possible.
The two of them had conversed in rapid sign language, the woman speaking and signing, while he listened and signed back. It made Cassandra’s heart leap, seeing someone else just like her. She had just happened to sit so she could read some of his signs while showing that she used ASL as well. Though he apparently didn’t like his food very much because he kept saying something about ��nasty burgers.”
Right before Condiment King had walked in, the guy had sat up and shivered before looking around warily. His sister had sighed and carefully wiped her fingers on her napkin, unhurried by whatever had spooked him. Then one of Gotham’s least effective, yet most annoying, rogues walked in and declared he was robbing the place.
The guy stood up and pulled what looked to Cass to be a highly scientific soup thermos and snuck up behind Condiment King as he was threatening the tired, underpaid and overworked cashiers. Cass couldn’t help but notice how silent he walked, he glided over the ground like a dancer as if gravity was only the merest of suggestions. He thumbed a switch on the side of his thermos and a brilliant blue beam poured out, catching Condiment King’s attention.
Condiment King turned and almost jumped out of his skin when he saw a random civilian holding a soup container threateningly. The rogue and the stranger both looked down at the thermos in confusion. He opened his mouth as if to speak but instead some horrible combination of sparking electricity, cracking ice and distant screams came out. Somehow Cass could almost hear words past the noise and she was amazed that she could understand him.
“Huh. I would have sworn you were one of mine.”
Condiment King scowled past his confusion and readied his mustard cannon.
“Danny, now's not the time for quips.” His sister said as she pulled him out of the way of the yellow fountain. “I’m not letting you back in the apartment if you smell like mustard.”
Then she pulled a baton from the back of her belt that extended into a bo staff. Two quick strikes had Condiment King disarmed and on the ground, a third and he was dazed enough to not be a threat.
“Well done, Jazz!” Danny had set his thermos down on the countertop so he could excitedly sign to his sister, then he looked around in confusion. “But then what triggered my ghost sense?”
No sooner had he finished his signs, than a translucent being phased through the wall, a box in his hands. He looked to be dressed as a regular warehouse worker, though he glowed, floated and apparently could ignore solid walls. He immediately began flinging frozen hamburger patties from his box around.
“I’m the Box Ghost! Ghostly master of all things rectangular and corrugated! Beware!”
“Ah, there you are Boxy.” Danny said in his strange and crackling voice. Cass could see that Stephanie and Barbara couldn’t understand what he was saying as they both clamped their hands over their ears at the cacophony.
Cass watched Danny with this Box Ghost. Clearly the two knew each other, she could practically see the rapport Danny had. She couldn’t keep herself from admiring Danny’s form. He flowed like water around the frozen patties. Even when her brothers were at their most agile and graceful, there was an element of elegance that was missing from their movements. Yet with Danny he skated around the projectiles.
He was also aware of every person in the restaurant. One of the frozen burgers would have easily missed Danny, but hit one of the others, except he caught it and spun it right back at Box Ghost. That level of awareness was difficult for even seasoned heroes, and showed how often Danny had faced overwhelming odds, he knew exactly what would happen if he failed to be aware of someone in the line of fire.
She appreciated how in control he was of his strength. She could see it in the bunching and tightening of his muscles that he wasn’t using anywhere near his full strength in this fight. It was a level of restraint she knew far too personally. It was the restraint of someone who had hurt others before and would never do so again.
“Alright Boxy, you’re making a mess. Time to be done” Danny said, grabbing the thermos once more and again flipping the switch. This time when the beam of light caught the ghost it began to pull them in like a vortex.
“Darn your cylindrical containment device!” The voice of the Box Ghost diminished until it completely disappeared along with the ghost and the beam of light. Danny spun the thermos in his hand for a moment before he clipped it onto his belt with a flourish.
Cass glanced at the other Batgirls and, unsurprisingly, saw Steph almost salivating over the amazonian woman. Steph liked her women strong, tall and hyper competent. Meetings with the rest of the Justice League usually left her vibrating with barely controlled desire. She had almost needed a vacation the first time she met Big Barda. Steph was already half way up out of her seat to introduce herself.
Barbara seemed similarly impressed, though as she was currently dating Dinah Lance, her interest was different. She had her phone out and was typing rapidly, no doubt hacking the security system of the Batburger to remove any evidence of their actions, as clear a sign of her approval as anything.
With a smile Cass also stood and followed Steph. The two Batgirls would absolutely introduce themselves to these two, and hopefully that introduction would eventually lead to a date, or maybe more.
#dp x dc#danny fenton#danny phantom#jazz fenton#cassandra cain#stephanie brown#barbara gordon#dead silent#danny x cass#jazz x steph#babs x dinah#dinahbabs#I could write more for this#a sequel or something#maybe even a whole dating fic#what would you like to see?#girl's knight
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roy harper, girl dad since 1986
#they are so important to me#yes lian has a dinosaur themed backpack what about it#lian harper#roy harper#dc fanart#dinah got her that backpack
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shout out to the illegally produced starlight express production from india in 1987 for giving me prodigal he whistled at me choreography
#YES i know this isnt what the choreo in the actual show would have looked like let me have this#i watched this production for the first time last night and im going insane#a lot of genuinely very good actors/singers!!! pearl dinah cb and rusty are standouts for me personally#stex#starlight express#the ensemble engines taking turns acting as the dream train is SO CUTE to me#plays this and the 1983 workshop version on loop to hopefully microdose on he whistled at me choreo enough to explode
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Who let me think it would be a good idea to animate Greaseball and Dinah in full color without simplifying their designs beyond removing a couple of Greaseball's bands and with having only had any experience drawing one of them once
You're killing me ladies (I'm doing this to myself)
#art#digital art#animation#wip#starlight express#starlight express london#stex#stex london revival#stex london 2024#greaseball starlight express#starlight express greaseball#greaseball the diesel#stex greaseball#dinah starlight express#starlight express dinah#dinah stex#stex dinah#dinah the dining car#i have no idea what their ship name is to be able to tag that#this is my first time actually interacting with the fandom#hi guys
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“I don’t think he can whistle at me, he lacks the apparatus” IM SORRY? you heard it folks, genderqueer electra is so real and we love that
#starlight express#stex#stex bochum#english audio bc not everyone knows german#dinah the dining car#electra#generfluid electra is so real to me#icons#what a diva#idk why dinah pointed it out#its so funny for no reason#HE LACKS THE APPARATUS ⁉️
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